Bathroom renovation, an ongoing project

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06/06/2016 at 10:16 • Filed to: houselopnik, new bathroom

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We’re absorbing not one but two vestigial closets into our master bathroom, effectively doubling its square footage. No longer will we need to sidle past the toilet to get to the shower!

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Looking through vestigial closet #1's old walls into vestigial closet #2

There’s no load-bearing walls in this particular corner of the house so we’re good to destroy and modify to our hearts’ content. That up there’s a fraction of yesterday’s work; removing the walls around closet #1 opening it to both closet #2 and master bath. Whilst demolishing, we’ve found some shitty work-arounds that the fix-n-flippers performed:

They shimmed the shower backerboard with cardboard

They installed a drop false ceiling in closet #1 to hide an insulation problem in the attic

They didn’t seal the shower properly - there’s mold on the drywall behind the shower (wall for the living room)

They installed a tile backsplash for the kitchen by gluing tiles on top of unprepared, still-textured-and-painted drywall, without as much as a coat of thinset.

Thankfully all save the last bullet will be rectified with the remodel. It’s a good thing we are well under budget for this work (and the new driveway coming in the fall) because now I get to dip into that surplus to replace the shitty kitchen backsplash!


DISCUSSION (20)


Kinja'd!!! McMike > Nibbles
06/06/2016 at 10:21

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You might need more than Denver to patch this one up.


Kinja'd!!! Party-vi > Nibbles
06/06/2016 at 10:27

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You should think about using concrete backer board or green board in the bathroom.

Also, it’s acceptable to install tile on drywall without thinset or mud if it’s decorative and not being used in a high-moisture area. I did a complete restroom renovation in a HQ building that used construction adhesive and tile over moisture-resistant gypsum board and that met our specs/code.


Kinja'd!!! EL_ULY > Party-vi
06/06/2016 at 10:29

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+1 for that green board in the restroom. Good stuff


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Nibbles
06/06/2016 at 10:30

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should be done by lunch! What’s next on the project list?


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > Party-vi
06/06/2016 at 10:31

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It had concrete backerboard before; I was thinking of going with Densshield - do you have any knowledge of that product?

I’m sure the tile was “acceptable”. It’s not for me though. A small bead of adhesive to hold large tiles to the wall isn’t good in my book. Now that one tile has fell off, more will surely come and that’s just not right . There was no prep work at all, just slap some glue on tiles and tack ‘em to the freshly-textured-and-painted wall. Not good. Not good.


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > McMike
06/06/2016 at 10:31

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Yarp


Kinja'd!!! MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Party-vi
06/06/2016 at 10:31

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I’m with Party-vi on this one - GreenBoard for the bathroom.

(whoa did we agree on something?!)


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > PartyPooper2012
06/06/2016 at 10:33

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LEL

The demo will be done soon enough, but I get the privilege of taking a jackhammer to the foundation to lay new plumbing :)


Kinja'd!!! OPPOsaurus WRX > Nibbles
06/06/2016 at 10:40

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one of the previous owners of my house double the width of the door opening by just cutting. loadbearing walls are for losers.... that was a fun suprise to open up.


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > OPPOsaurus WRX
06/06/2016 at 10:43

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Dayum!


Kinja'd!!! PartyPooper2012 > Nibbles
06/06/2016 at 10:44

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lol. I own a jackhammer. I use it several times a year. Always fun. Make sure you know what’s in your floor before you hammer it out... gas lines, sewage...etc.


Kinja'd!!! Party-vi > Nibbles
06/06/2016 at 10:47

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DensShield is a good product but is just really fancy green (gypsum) board. HardieBacker is probably one of the better options out there. The only drawbacks I can think of for DensShield is the 4psf weight limit on the board - you can’t install tiles larger than 3/8" thick and 14"x 14", not that such a large tile would be used in a shower or restroom anyway - and the installation which can be tricky since it’s a coated product and the warranty is only good if installed following the instructions. My contractors prefer Durock cement board, shower membrane, and thinset for the tile.


Kinja'd!!! Party-vi > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner
06/06/2016 at 10:51

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Well, green board for the bathroom except for the shower are (obviously).


Kinja'd!!! OPPOsaurus WRX > Nibbles
06/06/2016 at 11:05

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yea i was running around stuffin 4x4 in there even tho its been like that for 10 years


Kinja'd!!! smobgirl > Nibbles
06/06/2016 at 11:09

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I have to shed a tear for the lost closets. My house only has two, neither of which are in the upstairs where the master “suite” is.


Kinja'd!!! That's gonna leave a mark! > Nibbles
06/06/2016 at 11:27

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Planned renovation or simply a repair after too much roughage?


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > Party-vi
06/06/2016 at 11:32

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Oh that is a big deal there. The tile we’re looking at is 3/8" 14"x 8" which is cutting it close enough to the max that I don’t like that idea any more


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > smobgirl
06/06/2016 at 12:05

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Let me show you the replacement closet:

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The closets we are removing total about 1/3 the square footage of this converted “sun room”


Kinja'd!!! Nibbles > That's gonna leave a mark!
06/06/2016 at 12:07

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Planned. The original master bath was 84" x 45". It was a hallway - you had to sidle past the toilet to get to the shower. We’re doubling the shower size (45" x 60" now), relocating the toilet to the other side of the wall and installing a double-sink vanity and linen closet.


Kinja'd!!! smobgirl > Nibbles
06/06/2016 at 12:08

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That's bigger than my living room.